Lily He
Yeah. I guess Eve like, what's your favorite part of, yeah, just working with undergrads through don't know, even just teaching. And also, like, in the lab over these few years.
Eve Marder
So, um, there's several favorite parts. Um, what's wonderful about undergraduates is when you first meet them, there are these ill formed masses of protoplasm so some of them have brains attached and some who have prototypic brains attached.
Eve Marder
And then over um, some number of years you watch people mature and come into their own and become really active creative intellects and what's most so from that point of view, undergraduates are the most satisfying cohort because they go from being very, very young to being often very accomplished and very mature and, and it's just a great pleasure to be part of that. Graduate students you see it again, the progression again, but it's a little bit different because they don't start out as as as young but again they go through massive developmental maturation changes post-docs are most frustrating because they're they're more they have much higher stakes and they're much more anxious and they're much more they're trying to do things that are much more careerist.
Eve Marder
And what is so refreshing about the right the best undergraduates is that you can see complete and total transformations of people in terms of their expectations and what they find exciting. And you can you can be part of watching their their eyes light up in their brains light up you see in class sometimes. I mean, one of the things I used to love about teaching 140 when I did that is sometimes you just see someone their eyes light up when you understood, when you saw that they understood something that had been confusing or that was difficult or that was a completely new concept and you just see them get excited.
Eve Marder
And I think that's the joy of education when you're starting with people who basically don't know very much or they don't know very much about what you're teaching them is that you can watch the little light bulbs go on and umm and it's and it's palpable. I mean, you can see it.